=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *VOL:10* NUMBER 10, JULY 10, 1994 NO RIGHTS RESERVED TORONTO =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> < <>> <<>> <<>> <<>> << >> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<< NET.SCANDAL>>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<- RE: NET.SCANDAL vol.9,MARION'S NIGHTMARE Dr> Gordon Domm, ban-breaker, is a retired OPP officer living in Guelph. Dr> Domm first made national news for thumbing his nose at the publication Dr> ban surrounding the Karla Homolka trial. Domm was arrested for mailing Dr> out the banned Washington Post article on TV. Domm and Mike Wass, are Dr> the only two people to date who have actually been arrested for Dr> breaking this useless ban. *Michael Wass* writes: A correction is in order here. Despite mailing Ms. Boyd her very own copy of one of the banned articles, (via regular, and registered mail) along with a letter that was signed, and included an invitation to issue an arrest warrant, Michael Wass remains free of any criminal charges. The letter was carbon copied to his friend, Gordon Domm, as well as to the Hamilton Wentworth Regional Police Dept. Chief, Ontario Premier Rae, the Prime Minister, and Deputy Prime Minister, and various lawyers and media. The only responce to these mailing came from Gordon Domm. Michael Wass operates a BBS, which is mail only (and will remain mail-only for another 1-2 weeks anyway), in Hamilton Ontario, called The Political and Legal Forum. He can be reached via Fidonet at 1:244/432, or as michael.wass%...@csrnet-bbs.com, which is mapped to his system. The worst that has happened to Michael Wass was an expulsion from this system, Canada Remote Systems Online, for refusing to cease his ban related postings. That happened in December 1993. The confusion over this report of his (Michael Wass) arrest may come from two sources. A Michael Kydd (of his own will) accompanied Mr. Domm to the police station, during his St. Catherines arrest. Twenty-year old Michael Kydd leads the Guelph based 'Youth Wing' of the 'Gordon Domm defence fund.' At no time was Michael Kydd subject to arrest. Dr> I asked Gordon if he had heard of his 'electronic' double, Abdul- Dr> "The Electronic Gordon Domm". He replied "Oh yes, that's his alias is Dr> it not?" "I have a friend who keeps me semi-informed on the INTERNET Dr> discussions" I asked him if he had ever been online and he said not as Dr> yet. Gordon has received a good deal of support for his position, Dr> though he seemed unaware of his INTERNET popularity. Michael Wass is the friend that keeps Gordon "semi-informed" of the goings on of the Internet. This may be the second source of the mis-reported arrest of Michael Wass. Gordon is not familiar with computers, so he can hardly grasp the imensity of the Internet. I explain it as best I can, and he is begining to understand a bit of what I talk about. Dr> We'd love to see Domm online. Dr> !ANY PROVIDERS IN GUELPH?! GET DOMM ONLINE - MAIL ME FOR HIS # As I mention above, Gordon doesn't use a computer, so any provider is useless to him. However, I have been searching for a provider for the ban related newsgroups (which I may finally have found in Toronto). An arrangment was made between Gordon Domm and myself, er, that is Gordon Domm and Michael Wass, where Gordon will issue statements that will be posted by Michael Wass. (This may change soon - ed) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= FWD: Domm and the Constitution-Michael Hale =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The Canadian justice system is certainly taking a shellacing from Michael Wass and Gordon Domm. Wass has strong criticisms of several components of the system, to wit: THE JUDICIARY "Justice Smith is wrong in ruling that Justice Kovaks had the power to invoke such a ban... "When the judge ruled, during pre-trial with no jury, that the Kovaks ban did include Gordon, he negated any validity of a trial." THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT "...government employee's who allowed Karla Homolka a slap on the wrist... "...increasing veiled threats from Ontario Attorney General Marion Boyd... "...they felt secure in spreading my name to all systems receiving mail from them, and advising against them granting me access." THE LAW ITSELF "I first worked with Gordon Domm when we appeared together, with Hamilton Ontario Member of Parliament Stan Keyes, and spoke out against the Canadian Young Offenders Act." [The judge invoked an] "obscure law" _________________________ Although our legal systems have a great deal in common, the American and Canadian constitutions differ in some important respects. As Wass correctly states, Section 1 of the Canadian Charter "guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it, subject only to such limitations as can reasonably be demonstrated in a free and democratic society." The U.S. Constitution has no such limitation. I for one, am content with Section 1 of the Charter and am not convinced by arguments that there should be no restrictions on the right to free speech. Laws against hate literature are a case in point (although the Canadian law needs improvements, and obviously it is difficult to tread this fine line). The judge in the Homulka case must justify that the ban, which constitutes a restriction on Canadian citizens' right to free speech, is a reasonable limitation. Gordon Domm, Michael Wass, or any other citizen can challenge the ban, and get a Supreme Court ruling on whether it is justified. But if we have faith in neither the judiciary, the government, nor the law, where is one to go? Another country, perhaps? Michael Hale h...@law.ubc.ca =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= TORONTO BBS UPDATE- by Dr. T. Evans =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= A lengthy article in Toronto Computes, written by Lee Lester, has once again thrown our favourite admins at MAGIC-BBS, into further controversy. It suggests that MAGIC may have to undergo some serious politics to alleviate a conflict of interest issue with Apple Canada. Apple's new E-World software has hit the market, in direct competition with the Soft Arc "First Class" communication software used at MAGIC. Mark Windrim, administrator, has one of the most succesfull BBSes running in North America. With a dedicated following, (some 6,000 users), it presents the system with some tough decisions. Though still offering some 500+ Usenet newsgroups on a free basis, MAGIC has plans to make itself a paying site in the near future. The decisions made by the admins at MAGIC, an acronym for "Macintosh Awareness Group In Canada", will be interesting to watch. It's the old case of eventually having to bite the hand that feeds you. Once Windrim generates his own revenue from membership, he'll have to decide if it isn't time to take a 'bite' out of the "Apple". Though quite confident Mark will weather the storm, it's interesting to watch the ins and outs of the scandalous communications community. Perhaps a note of caution. When entering the bed with corporate sponsors, keep Dr.Evans' dear old grandmother's advice in mind... "If you give the milk away for free, they'll never buy the cow! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= SUBMIT TO FRINGEWARE P FWD =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= FringeWare sponsors a few ongoing contests related to our publications. 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OPEN INVITATION TO THE INTERNET-SATURDAY JULY 16th |||||||\ /||||||\ /||||||\||||||||||/||||||\ |||||||\ /||||||\ ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||/ ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||||||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| ||| \|\ |||\\||| |||||||/ \||||||/ \||||||/ ||| \||||||/ ||| \|\ \||||||/ \\ (look for the pre-party article in the Toronto Sun this week) 684 ADELAIDE STREET WEST,JULY 16th '94 AN EVENING OF UNPREDICTABLE DELIGHTS Call Marina Black at 416-979-2696 for further details. * YOU ARE INVITED TO ATTEND AN EVENING OF BIZARRE HUMAN BEHAVIOUR PARTAKE IN A FEAST PREPARED BY NONE OTHER THAN THE INTERNATIONALY FAMOUS DOCTORS EVANS AND BAPTISTA. * Featured Guests:(Confirmed RSVPs)) Gordon Domm, ex OPP officer Q Homolka ban-breaker "The Banned" with SUZY CYANIDE-playing their hit single live! Mike Wass- banned on CRS for posting Homolka news Abdul "The Electronic Gordon Domm", Internet activist, Homolka FAQ Doctor Joe Baptista, tourist, chef, legend Doctor Robert J. Riley - chicken.planet.org maestro The Toronto Sun FRANK Magazine CBC Scott Burnside-Toronto Sun reporter Ryerson School of Journalism representatives NET celebs, exotica, erotica (100 media organizations have been faxed invitations to attend) LOCATION: 684 Adelaide St. West, Toronto (big block west of Bathurst) DATE: July 16th,'94 , early evening 'till late evening WEAR APPROPRIATE END-OF-THE-WORLD ATTIRE Call Marina Black at 416-979-2696 for further details. This event will ensure an evening of surprises. Our nasty Attorney General will be surprised, her glorious poster will overlook the sizzling BBQ pit. I have no doubt whatsoever, that she may ask the OPP to drop in for a weenie. Dr. Baptista and I have sent her, her own private invitation. All of the local and national newspapers have been invited via fax. Will the FAQ be available? As odd as it may sound, none of the medias I spoke to, have possession of the Teale-Tales FAQ. We expect anywhere from 100 to 1,500 people. BOYD-BURGERS & SHISH-KARLA-BOBS, carefully prepared by Dr.Joe Baptista - chef. Don't miss this event! Call Marina Black at 416-979-2696 (Toronto) for further details. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= SPORTS =-=-=-= HAGGIS HUNTERS-ont.general The last week was a full-tilt ont.general brawl, surrounding a particularly nasty series of posts against homosexuals. The Gay Pride parade brought out the WASPS in full force in the Usenet forums. Needless to say, the Scottish were behind it once again. Final score still to be decided. Tune into this incredible forum for further news and sports. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= SIGFILE OF THE WEEK =-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=- Tom taTom *** acm...@gsusgi2.gsu.edu *** Cpt_Hemp (on IRC) "I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming in terror like his passengers." -- Jim Larkin =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= That's it for this week...SEE YOU AT THE 'Q'- Be well, keep at her! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= <<<<<<<<<===NET.SCANDAL===>>>>>>>> will appear weekly(?) until I am permanently dev/null (beware of forgeries) How do I JOIN NET.SCANDAL? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= You may join the list at any time by sending a "SUBSCRIBE NET.SCANDAL" command in the body of a message to lists...@planet.org. Please note that this command must NOT be sent to the list address (NET.SCAN...@planet.org), but to the mail server which handles this provocative mailing list. 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