Hacker Hypocrisy; @Stake/L0pht

- 09/05/00 - 
Update: 09/07/00

RE: SecurityFocus News: AtStake jilts Phiber Optik
http://www.securityfocus.com/templates/article.html?id=79


  You know, in regards to @Stake I really don't know what to think.
Here we are [in the] the year 2000 talking about "hacker hypocrisy" and
what happens to a group of people (L0pht) who, until just recently stood
for something pure in our hacking sub-culture.

What happened?

When a multi-million-dollar venture capital is offered to a group of
people, who for the better part of the 90's relied on donations and
t-shirt/cd sales, and eventually, computer security consulting jobs to
break even -- well of course they're going to take it. I mean, who wouldn't
turn down a nice comfortable corporate career doing what they love?

WHO would of thought that a group who were so respected in the hacking
scene go about screwing over both of their own; Space Rogue (in June) and
now Phiber Optik? The same group who were once going against the grain,
doing their part for our culture and at the same time maintaining a 
certain amount of respect have now sold out in a big big way.

It's one thing to take on a well paying job, but it's another to have it
interfere with what you love to do and have it ruin the friendships that
were built over the years.

Maybe it's me ranting about something I really don't know anything
about... disappointed in a group who I looked up to for so many years as
"heros of the information age" - maybe it's the rebellious generation-X
all grown up?

Whatever it may be is irrelevant now -- the damage has been done, it
doesn't look like @Stake is bowing to hacking culture in any way at all.

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The L0pht is no more, HNN is now very heavily saturated by the bureaucracy
of @Stake stockholder value rather than fair media reporting, and now it
seems they want nothing to do with any hacker convicted of ... hacking?

- The Clone


Update, check out what Space Rogue had to say recently:

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Why *did* Space Rogue leave @Stake
   by Space Rogue
   Tue Sep 05 2000
   I was fired. Plain and simple.
   Why?
   While I would love to go into a long involved detailed explanation of
   the whole sordid affair I am currently in legal negotiations with them
   and do not wish to jeopordise the outcome.
   As for HNN, it was technically property of L0pht and became property
   of @Stake after the sell out.
   After reading all the responces to this article I noticed many people
   still confuse what L0pht was with what @stake is. Make no mistake,
   L0pht ceased to exist on Decemeber 27, 1999.
   - Space Rogue
   spacerog@tiac.net 

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